Digs Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 49 minutes ago, kelty_par said: If the squads nowhere near as bad as made out, why are we sat 2nd bottom then? It’s not all mcpakes fault. Some of these players have been here under 2/3 managers. Right good few in that squad who aren’t good enough for championship There’s loads of reasons. Tactics being a major one, lack of confidence due to our position which is massive. There’s plenty underperforming but that doesn’t mean they are League 1 level. There’s absolutely players that are probably past the point of no return but a good manager gets the best out of individuals by utilizing their strengths. There’s plenty underperforming but there has been enough performances this season to show that the right set up gets us results. From that, confidence grows and players play better. If you’re not at this level, we wouldn’t have won any games this season. 2 Quote
da_no_1 Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 16 minutes ago, parsforlife said: You think guys like Thomas or Graham aren't match winners to the same extent as Easton? Pish. Thomas, nope. Graham, possibly. Quote
SRBpar Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 And latest rumour is that tidser has turned us down Quote
Salvo Montalbano Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 1 hour ago, Digs said: There’s loads of reasons. Tactics being a major one, lack of confidence due to our position which is massive. They should have been full of confidence at the start of last season and carried the momentum with them in the way Falkirk have. But we didn't, and any time we do put in a good performance and get a good result (v Partick, v Dundee Utd twice, v Raith, etc) we fail to build on it. None of the better performers from the League One winning team have been shown to be match winners at Championship level (the closest were Todd at Firhill and Ritchie-Hosler v Dundee Utd but even then the likes of Jakubiak helped in those games). We've changed tactics various times to try and get a tune out of the players. Back three, back four. Narrow midfield, stretched midfield, midfield diamond. One up with two wide, one up with one behind, two up front. Maybe we just don't have players who are good enough. At the moment I'd suggest Comrie, Ngwenya, Benedictus (although big asterisk next to his name), Hamilton, Otoo, Todd and Kane look like Championship level players. The rest? The loanees might be but are inconsistent but as to our own players, I think you'd have a hard case arguing for them. Quote
rosythpar Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 2 hours ago, Digs said: Absolute nonsense. League table, away form and performances would prove my point. We are looking likely for another relegation, surely that suggests the players aren't good enough for this level? I know management will take a lot of the blame. Quote
lambo1885 Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 (edited) 14 hours ago, rosythpar said: League table, away form and performances would prove my point. We are looking likely for another relegation, surely that suggests the players aren't good enough for this level? I know management will take a lot of the blame. No. It just proves we've under performed massively... I think we have the 'basis' of a squad that should be challenging for the play offs... Do some need to move on, yes. Do we need additions, yes. A competent manager, setting the team/squad up better would get far more from the players than we've had this season... With the current squad of players, McGlyn, Martindale, Doolan, Davidson would all have us further up the league then we are imo. Edited January 3 by lambo1885 autocorrect 1 Quote
Digs Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 12 hours ago, lambo1885 said: No. It just proves we've under performed massively... I think we have the 'basis' of a squad that should be challenging for the play offs... Do some need to move on, yes. Do we need additions, yes. A competent manager, setting the team/squad up better would get far more from the players than we've had this season... With the current squad of players, McGlyn, Martindale, Doolan, Davidson would all have us further up the league then we are imo. Couldn’t have said it better myself Quote
Grant Posted January 3 Report Posted January 3 14 hours ago, lambo1885 said: No. It just proves we've under performed massively... I think we have the 'basis' of a squad that should be challenging for the play offs... Do some need to move on, yes. Do we need additions, yes. A competent manager, setting the team/squad up better would get far more from the players than we've had this season... With the current squad of players, McGlyn, Martindale, Doolan, Davidson would all have us further up the league then we are imo. Couldn't agree more. So much at this level is down to coaching/preparation and confidence. 1 Quote
Eastendtales Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 Get them pumped, Pars. By any means necessary. Quote
Lochalsh Par Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 On 02/01/2025 at 13:40, da_no_1 said: So who's taking the team for this one? Gary Oakey? Sir David Laming? Andy (Mo) Hutton. He probably knows the squad better than anyone else. Actually, John McClaughlan has cancelled his holiday and will be in charge today Quote
SanguinePar Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 Some interesting stats on the BBC preview of the match. Assuming they are correct, of course. Even though I think it's widely accepted that attacking is our weakest aspect, these stats actually suggest we're not so far behind Patrick in that respect. Instead, where we're failing (in comparison to Thistle anyway) is in our defence, with too many goals conceded and too many points lost after being ahead. Obviously this is just one comparison, and not very scientific, but I wonder if the more defensive approach we often adopted under McPake actually just encouraged teams to attack us more? Although, possibly being more defensive prevented these stats being even worse. 1 Quote
Tartan Army Par Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 23 minutes ago, SanguinePar said: Some interesting stats on the BBC preview of the match. Assuming they are correct, of course. Even though I think it's widely accepted that attacking is our weakest aspect, these stats actually suggest we're not so far behind Patrick in that respect. Instead, where we're failing (in comparison to Thistle anyway) is in our defence, with too many goals conceded and too many points lost after being ahead. Obviously this is just one comparison, and not very scientific, but I wonder if the more defensive approach we often adopted under McPake actually just encouraged teams to attack us more? Although, possibly being more defensive prevented these stats being even worse. Defending set-pieces is a real problem for us. Lost a lot of goals from them this season. I might be looking at things a bit simplistically here, but that stinks of poor coaching for me. 1 Quote
weemike Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 We quickly run out of ideas going forward and turn over possession too easily and then become on the back foot defending when we really shouldn't be. It's not that we are set up to play defensively. We just don't know how to attack with fluidity. The weakest aspect of our team is our ability going forward. Quote
Lochalsh Par Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 1 hour ago, SanguinePar said: Some interesting stats on the BBC preview of the match. Assuming they are correct, of course. Even though I think it's widely accepted that attacking is our weakest aspect, these stats actually suggest we're not so far behind Patrick in that respect. Instead, where we're failing (in comparison to Thistle anyway) is in our defence, with too many goals conceded and too many points lost after being ahead. Obviously this is just one comparison, and not very scientific, but I wonder if the more defensive approach we often adopted under McPake actually just encouraged teams to attack us more? Although, possibly being more defensive prevented these stats being even worse. Converting shots on target an issue perhaps. From watching games on TV, Partick tend to get a lot of possession but often do little with it except pass it around in their own half. They do have the ability to launch forward decisively from this. I suggest attacking them aggressively when they are in possession their own half is a good tactic but be very wary of the fast break. Quote
Lochalsh Par Posted January 4 Report Posted January 4 42 minutes ago, weemike said: We quickly run out of ideas going forward and turn over possession too easily and then become on the back foot defending when we really shouldn't be. It's not that we are set up to play defensively. We just don't know how to attack with fluidity. The weakest aspect of our team is our ability going forward. As I have suggested, I think that attacking them when they have possession in their own half and dispossessing them is our best chance of scoring goals. A few long balls to Kane could also pay off. At this stage I really could not care how they score, they just have to start - soon. COYP Quote
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