Paradox Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 West Ham star commits his international allegiance to England despite earning 3 senior caps in non-competitive games for the Republic of Ireland. Another bonkers rule IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambo1885 Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 The rule should be as soon as you've played for 1 country that's it. None of this friendly nonsense, even playing u21 for one and full for another isn't really right for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutsch Par Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Completely agree with the comments here even though we got lucky with Stuart McCall after he was an unused sub for England. Once a player has been part of a squad for one country's under 21 side in a match competitive or not, he should be no longer eligible for anyone else unless there are extenuating circumstances i.e. Kosovo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Not good enough for England. If I was Southgate, Id play him for 1 minute as a sub just to be on the safe side that he couldnt play a part against them in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 14/02/2019 at 15:55, lambo1885 said: The rule should be as soon as you've played for 1 country that's it. None of this friendly nonsense, even playing u21 for one and full for another isn't really right for me. Completely agree. In fact I'd go further and have it that when you sign your first senior contract you declare which country you belong to, and that's it. If you think you might be good enough for a top side, or England, say so then, but no going back later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teuchter Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, SanguinePar said: for a top side, or England Ha ha, uncalled for but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Reminds me of the clamour to get Jordan Rhodes 'signed up' fully for Scotland. Rarely got a game after all the fuss! Was there not talk about Scotland trying to get Nacho Novo as well? Something to do with the length of time he'd lived in Scotland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Paradox said: Reminds me of the clamour to get Jordan Rhodes 'signed up' fully for Scotland. Rarely got a game after all the fuss! Was there not talk about Scotland trying to get Nacho Novo as well? Something to do with the length of time he'd lived in Scotland? Imagine if he had scored against Espania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 As far as Im concerned youre one nationality and thats it... although nationality is sometimes disputed, some say its the country of birth, some say its your parentage. Alot of countries abuse the rules, Diego Costa I think was born in Brazil but plays for Spain, Zidanes parent are Algerian, Mesut Ozils parents are Turks. Somebody, ie FIFA, need to make a decision about whos from where. The thing about doing that, is Algerian football could have improved far quicker had Zidane played for the right country? Maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Sure a lot of the ROI players were born in England ,but had Irish grandparents/mums and dads. Although had they wanted to play for the country of their birth, they probably would not have played in a World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutsch Par Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Similarly a lot of the best players for the Netherlands are/were from Surinam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted February 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 I don't have an issue with the parentage rule - but it should only apply to your birth parents, and not grandparents. I think the point made earlier about committing to your nationality when you sign your first senior contract is a good one. Too many cheap caps handed out these days IMO. Cricket is another sport affected by this IMO. Kevin Pieterson and Eoin Morgan as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Beer Baron Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 We tried to get Lorenzo Amoruso but he'd played under 21 for Italy and at the time, rules said no. He was up for it to, and could have been great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teuchter Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 9 hours ago, Vinnie said: The thing about doing that, is Algerian football could have improved far quicker had Zidane played for the right country? Marseille born Zidane was playing for the wrong country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teuchter Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 In sports it is probably easy enough to put something in place to demand a commitment. The Costa and Rice examples are unusual in the sense that the flexibility usually benefits smaller or less talented nations. Demanding commitment is not the same as making up someone’s mind for them. A lot of the time, as far as younger players go, all the fuss turns out to be meaningless. Remember Islam Feruz at Celtic then Chelsea a few years back who turned his back on Scotland? The last that I saw of him he couldn’t even break into a poor Hibs side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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