Deutsch Par Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Nearly 6 out of 10 Scots polled claim they will vote for independence if the UK leaves the EU http://news.stv.tv/politics/1342223-stephen-daisley-finds-58-of-scots-would-back-independence-if-uk-quits-eu/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Polls mean nothing. A lot of folk are all talk until push to comes to shove. At which point they meekly return to their old stance and the status quo remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Womble Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Leaving the EU in no way guarantees another IndyRef, so the point is kinda moot!Even more so, if the majority of Scottish vote to leave EU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougieDave Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Many SNP supporters are in favour of leaving the EU for obvious reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamAntsParsStripe Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Yes I don't think party politics comes into this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Many SNP supporters are in favour of leaving the EU for obvious reasons Vote to leave the EU to force a second independence referendum? Surely analysis of votes cast would show that Scotland voted for an exit, so on paper it shows we don't support the SNPs wish to be apart of EU. That would be counter-productive? Or have I missed the point DD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcpooper Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 I think a lot of SNP supporters see the EU as another infringement on Scotland's right to govern itself. Probably the older, more hardcore SNP supporters I guess.If your argument for independence was based on Scottish people having full control over Scotland's future/laws etc etc then you'd be a bit of a hypocrite to vote to remain in the EU.I guess those that just don't like being part of the U.K. or sharing power/sovereignty with England/Wales/NI feel comfortable voting to remain within the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Deadpool Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 If the UK leaves the EU, the following will happen;- Russia will invade- All the banks will leave- Borders and border guards will be put in place- We will all be forced to pay for new passports- Everyone will lose their pension- Everyone will lose their job- NATO would kick us out- No one would want to trade with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Beer Baron Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Oh yes and the NHS will be fully protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnie Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 If the UK leaves the EU, the following will happen;- Russia will invade- All the banks will leave- Borders and border guards will be put in place- We will all be forced to pay for new passports- Everyone will lose their pension- Everyone will lose their job- NATO would kick us out- No one would want to trade with usOh yes and the NHS will be fully protected.Dont exaggerate! We all know that Maggie T will ressurrect shooting fireballs from her eyes and bazooka rockets from her, er, bazookas!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishmcbride Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 EDIT: Wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 As another angle on this, if the UK as a whole voted to stay, but there was a clear distinction between Scotland and England/Wales/NI (say 70 remain: 30 leave, with EWNI narrowly voting to leave - guessed figures, I haven't done the maths), and it was clear that it was Scotland which was keeping the UK in......would that be grounds for EWNI to try to force Scottish independence in order to adhere to the majority view in those three countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam101 Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I'm fairly certain but could be wrong that Scotland wouldn't have enough numbers to take the UK out of Europe unless there is only a very small difference in England's decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 No, I'm saying that we might keep the UK in the EU, despite the others saying out.As far as I can tell, the most recent electoral roll numbers are as follows:Scotland - 3,896,900England - 37,399,900Wales - 2,181,800N Ireland - 1,243,400So EWNI = 40,825,100If Scotland voted 70:30 to remain, that'd be 2,727,830 stay and 1,139,070 leave = a net of +1,558,760So EWNI could vote 21,191,930 leave and 19,633,170 stay (51.9% to 48.1%) but be "kept in" by Scotland.I'm not sure what latest polling looks like, but it doesn't seem implausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Latest average of polls (UK wide): http://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/poll-of-polls/ - 53% remain, 47% leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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