GG Riva Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 56 minutes ago, livipar2 said: I’d normally agree with dropping Allan to accommodate Todd, Otoo and Hammy but he has been really good the last 2 games. His set piece delivery is a big threat as well. Tricky decision. If Bene starts I reckon we’ll be back to 5 at the back. Bene will be even more desperate to play than normal for this game. I hope he gets his wish. His absence has been a huge factor in us trying to avoid the relegation playoffs, rather than looking to claim a top 4 spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelty_par Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Just think it’s too risky starting him on that surface again. Last time he came back he only managed 45 minutes on it then got injured for 8/9 weeks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA-go Par Adonis Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 But then he came back against Ayr, on a grass pitch, and got injured again - this time after 20 minutes. Hopefully, he is fully recovered, ready to play and we have sufficient medical expertise left at the club to assess whether an artificial surface presents any additional risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superally Posted March 8 Author Report Share Posted March 8 I kind of wish that Bene had at least a 20min run out against Airdrie. Even if he does play i hope he doesn't over compensate due to his lack of match fitness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastendtales Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 I wouldn't risk him the full game or even to start. Game and result are first and foremost, giving game time is 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA-go Par Adonis Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 I don't get that. The defence is much better with Benedictus in it. If he's fit to play, he should play. If he's struggling after an hour due to lack of match fitness, he should be subbed. If we're too worried about him getting injured again to put him on the park, then we will never pick him again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelty_par Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 31 minutes ago, DA-go Par Adonis said: I don't get that. The defence is much better with Benedictus in it. If he's fit to play, he should play. If he's struggling after an hour due to lack of match fitness, he should be subbed. If we're too worried about him getting injured again to put him on the park, then we will never pick him again. Think it’s more he’s been rushed back twice before and broke down twice. Need caution as need to think of next season with him too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA-go Par Adonis Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 I think we all agree that nobody should be rushed back from injury. He's been on the bench for the last two games, though, so you would have to assume that he is fit to play. If you don't play him tomorrow to protect him, when do you decide to put him on the park? We absolutely need him for next season but if he's fit, we can't stand him down for the rest of this one - as we can't have him leading out the side in League One come next August. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Agreed @DA-go Par Adonis 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA-go Par Adonis Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Don't do that mate - I'll have to reconsider my stance... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Riva Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 39 minutes ago, kelty_par said: Think it’s more he’s been rushed back twice before and broke down twice. Need caution as need to think of next season with him too What makes you think that he was rushed back, KP? is it because he picked up another injury each time? I'd completely agree with you if he had aggravated the same injury, but they were totally unrelated, so we can't say he was rushed back. James McPake relies on advice from medical staff in any case. He doesn't just ask the player if he feels OK to play, especially not Bene, as he's notoriously optimistic. "It's just a broken metatarsal" he told me, when I saw him in a moonboot after his first injury this season. "I'll be back in 3-4 weeks max." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastendtales Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, DA-go Par Adonis said: I don't get that. The defence is much better with Benedictus in it. If he's fit to play, he should play. If he's struggling after an hour due to lack of match fitness, he should be subbed. If we're too worried about him getting injured again to put him on the park, then we will never pick him again. I guess I'm feeling very cautious about anyone coming back, given what happened earlier this season. He's going to lack match fitness or sharpness I'd imagine... I dunno just feels a risk right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA-go Par Adonis Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 The problem with that reasoning is that we then cannot play him in the next game - as we're at home to Dundee Utd. They're top of the league, better away from home and we're poor at EEP. If he is lacking match fitness and sharpness, that's the game where he is most likely to be exposed. The week after, we are at Cappielow. Fair enough, they've stumbled in the last couple of weeks, but they've been the best team in the division, results wise, for the 2 or 3 months prior to that. They also put 5 past us recently, so you would imagine we would be under a fair amount of pressure. Is that the time to pitch him in? The week after, we're at Arbroath, which could be a massive game... Unfortunately, there is no easy game for us to bring him back in For me, he is either fit to play or he's not. If he is, he plays and we hope he hits the ground running and makes a difference. He could get injured again, but so could KRH, Todd or even someone like Edwards - one of the few who has not been on the sidelines yet. It's just part of the risk of football. The caveat is, if Bene is not 100%, he shouldn't be considered for the matchday squad at all. Same goes for everyone, especially based on the way this season has gone. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelty_par Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, GG Riva said: What makes you think that he was rushed back, KP? is it because he picked up another injury each time? I'd completely agree with you if he had aggravated the same injury, but they were totally unrelated, so we can't say he was rushed back. James McPake relies on advice from medical staff in any case. He doesn't just ask the player if he feels OK to play, especially not Bene, as he's notoriously optimistic. "It's just a broken metatarsal" he told me, when I saw him in a moonboot after his first injury this season. "I'll be back in 3-4 weeks max." Injury he got down at ayr was the same injury he picked up at raith. Both thigh injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastendtales Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, DA-go Par Adonis said: The problem with that reasoning is that we then cannot play him in the next game - as we're at home to Dundee Utd. They're top of the league, better away from home and we're poor at EEP. If he is lacking match fitness and sharpness, that's the game where he is most likely to be exposed. The week after, we are at Cappielow. Fair enough, they've stumbled in the last couple of weeks, but they've been the best team in the division, results wise, for the 2 or 3 months prior to that. They also put 5 past us recently, so you would imagine we would be under a fair amount of pressure. Is that the time to pitch him in? The week after, we're at Arbroath, which could be a massive game... Unfortunately, there is no easy game for us to bring him back in For me, he is either fit to play or he's not. If he is, he plays and we hope he hits the ground running and makes a difference. He could get injured again, but so could KRH, Todd or even someone like Edwards - one of the few who has not been on the sidelines yet. It's just part of the risk of football. The caveat is, if Bene is not 100%, he shouldn't be considered for the matchday squad at all. Same goes for everyone, especially based on the way this season has gone. Don't get me wrong here, I don't disagree with your logic and infact I agree with it. I think I just have an unlogical feeling that's severely biased because of previous this season. To be even more honest I wasn't expecting much from him or KRH rest of the season and I'd take any comtribution from them as a bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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