Rossmcno1

I’m trying to choose my words carefully here, this result, and the contrasting fortunes of our local rivals to us, are a damning indictment of those entrusted to run our club. 
 

They should be embarrassed and ashamed.   

12 minutes ago, Al k said:

Slight twitch but still miserable and under whelmed. Might just start on the tins now. 😆

Hahahahaha

miserable and underwhelmed is generally a state for all pars fans. 😃. Hopefully more joyous and fun loving by 5pm… 🤞 

7 minutes ago, Al k said:

Great no Kane, Summer and Mccann play. Allan dropped too.

Other than Bene coming in I can't say I'm inspired by that selection. I'll stick my neck out and say an easy rovers win.

KRH starting must at least get the plums luke warm?

Well one things for sure, don’t expect a goal fest 😶

We need to start with our strongest team in their most natural positions.  It sounds so simple but think this might be the first time this season we’ve been able to do that throughout the team, so do it.

6 hours ago, Grant said:

And those that did would be correct. 

His starting positioning is wrong, his decision to not come compounds the first mistake. 

His lack of communication completes a trifecta of **** ups where each decision could've rectified the prior. 

I don't mind Mehmet, he's fine. We've won promotion from this division with worst keepers, my only concern would be the rumour that he was one of our highest earners before his new contract, is he that good? Not for me. My concerns with him are value for money rather than outright ability. 

I'm not looking for anything to confirm my opinion, but that second goal is quite clearly on him, far more than anyone else. 

On the flipside I apportioned zero blame to him for the first goal, mibbe I'm not not out to get him. 

I’m really struggling to see how you can blame Mehmet for the second goal.  That for me is not a goalies ball to come for.  Loads of backspin and height on it, it’s 12 yards from his line, the defence hasn’t pushed out effectively enough meaning they’re pretty deep on him - and it’s an awful clearance from MWH.  
 

Hes had some criticism in the past and it’s been deserved, but for me those two goals are not on him, both are defensive errors/sloppiness.

Just watched the goals.  Defensively so poor at the first one.  No one tracking the wide runner, who was then given far too much room to make the cross.  Harsh to say that Mehmet should come for that as the height that was catchable/reachable was well beyond far post - Edwards gets beaten by Todorov in the air.  Stop the cross, stop the goal.  Second one is a good finish. 
 

Chalk up another one for the season for Todorov who while wasn’t my favourite, he did have a habit of being an impact when we needed to change style.  Accept he was utter mince when we played them earlier in season, but so was that full Airdrie team.  Could think of a few games this season where him being in the squad for us would have made a significant difference.   At the time he was the only one released who I was pretty on the fence with.  Suspect if McPake had more idea of the difficulty he’d face bringing in a replacement, he may well have kept todorov for another year.  
 

Just how important has Chris Kane become to us?

All this optimism is giving me the fear, the utter fear.

3-2 win. 

Yes.  I would lol.  Think I said before on here that if that was to miraculously happen, the clubs social media should have a field day.  Make them feel really small for their continuous nonsense over the year.

Just get a fk in win FFS.  
 

there yer team talk 😂

14 hours ago, Piracy said:

Beaten 

That is all.

I got on my flight and they were 2-0 up. 
 

Near full on lol’d when I saw they’d chucked it.  
 

Couldn’t happen to a better collection of utter chunts.  Plus gives Arbroath some oomph to beat other sides that will end up helping us out.

13 minutes ago, Grant said:

Once the training facility has been built it should surely save money? We won't have to hire out other facilities. The cost will be getting incurred now in the building of it. 

Correct Grant, what we don’t know, is how much of the loss this year is down to Capital Expenditure related to this project, if any. 

Giving them a slight benefit of the doubt, I read that bit about the playoffs and just thought it was a budget explanation of expectations?   It was almost meant as a throw away comment (income budget based on 19 games rather than 18 as assumption of finishing in playoffs) and I just thought it should be treated as such.  Any time I’ve budgeted a business that’s what you do, you understand where you think you’re going to be performance wise and budget accordingly.  Then when reviewing the P&L you compare and contrast trading to give the numbers some detail.  
 

It’s not the best worded statement that’s for sure, but by Christ we’ve had a lot worse in the past!

When investors are brought in, we lose a bit of control/understanding/involvement in the financial side.  We were a fan owned club (in the loosest terms) and collectively those in control of shares voted for this investment, as it was seen that the fan owned model we had was no longer fit.  Ultimately the investors will have control, and it’s up to them to do what they want.  Thats the trade off for no longer having that control.  Ross McArthur was rightly lauded by many for his work, and it was him that’s brought these guys on board saying, he pinched himself due to how good they were, surely he wasn’t wrong?

One thing I did find comforting in a way, was Kieran Maguires tweet, he’s generally very good and quick to raise any alarms for clubs where he sees dodgy stuff, and he hasn’t done so in his brief review. 

I do think a Q&A would be of use, to at least give the wider fan base some comfort that this is part of the plan, investors still committed etc.   The breakdown of accounts is so vague that you can’t even understand wages v turnover or capex costs, or grasp any other income sources and their timings (Nisbet money for example), so we’re all guessing.  What we do know is that a £1 million loss no matter how it’s dressed up should be an alarming moment, and if the board and investors know anything about our fan base at all, they should know that we’ll need a truck load more of discussion than a couple of pishy paragraphs to flap that away without big concerns remaining.

I think having Jakubiak and Moffat able to come off the bench with Kane up top meant the ball stuck far better in the right areas of the pitch in the closing period of the game.  We were then able to give the defence and midfield breathing space and time (along with that all important confidence).

23 minutes ago, kelty_par said:

Maybe not the best idea to call a team meeting and leave the computer unlocked with it projected onto a screen with a list of players you are releasing at end of the season when it’s mid February 

Yes.  If true, I heard With some pretty disparaging and bleak commentary on some names.   Some of whom they will certainly need onside for the next few weeks.   All will not be well there very soon.

The text I received (whether it’s true or not) asserted that maybe someone needs to take Barrowman, Potter and Murray through a basic IT session on how to share screens in the right rooms, particularly pertinent when discussing recruitment, player attributes and … player disposals…

#youbelong (until you don’t)

7 minutes ago, Raymie said:

Another injury? When did the manager pull his hamstring ? 

1 hour ago, rosythpar said:

Otoo is going to net us a good transfer fee. The boy is brilliant. 

And this.  In midfield with the right players beside him, he is an absolute revelation. 

Been saying it all season.  The moment we get some quality on the bench, is when McPake is able to actually do his job.  Jakubiak and Moffat coming on yesterday stretched and pinned Thistle right back and made it a comfortable win in the end.  He was able to do similar a lot last season.  Feel our way into the game in the first half, and then change it, personnel shifts - bang there’s the win.   Our recent poor run in my opinion has been purely down to the lack of numbers and the hamstringing of the manager who has been unable to squeeze any more out such a tight group.  Now is the time for him to prove himself with this squad at this level and push right on up to the end.

Well done to the team.

17 minutes ago, the saline hill puma said:

Great win. Massive result

Otoo my mom. Outstanding in the middle of the park 

Absolutely this.  Hamilton and Otoo in the centre of midfield make this team top end not bottom end of the league.

well done lads, rode our luck but won convincingly in the end.

5 minutes ago, Al k said:

Charlie Reilly signs for Arbroath. 

****.  That’s a belter of a signing for them.  We could have done with that level of creativity.

7 minutes ago, DA-go Par Adonis said:

I would argue that injuries have been more of a disaster than the signings.

Since Cook has been in charge, we've secured a lot of decent players - some on loan, some permanent, some on loan and then signed permanently.  We've also successfully re-signed a lot of our own players who were out of contract.  

We've clearly missed out on some guys, most notably in this window, but that would seem to be a product of us being in freefall results-wise, which is largely due to a crippling injury list. 

There will also be budgets/wage structure that he's got to work within, but the owners are going to have the ultimate say on those numbers.  

I agree with most of this, but will caveat that we’ve deliberately run light for two years. Last year we got away with it, this year been caught absolutely pants down.  Someone (whether individually or collectively) has to take accountability for that.  If not the CEO, then who?

In preparation for catching the next series of Sunderland til I die, I decided to restart watching from series 1.

Quite alarming how after first 3/4 episodes I find myself finding so many parallels to us right now.  Indulge me in these a little as I’m being semi serious…

- for Martin Bain read David Cook (Christ they even look similar)

- for Simon Greyson see McPake (again shaving his head there’s more a resemblance! 😂)

- their squad and ours comparable  in terms of underperformance this season,

- injuries and bad luck

- owner that isn’t entirely visible/present

- horrendous home form and atmosphere with angry fans 

- underwhelming transfer windows

i mean, it all turned out ok for Sunderland didn’t it? 🥹

I think if it hadn’t been for injuries, then recruitment wouldn’t have been an issue other than the fact we keep running short on players.  This season has been in the post for some time.  We got away with running tight on numbers last season, and paid for it this season.  This is why I’m currently in no box, and swaying a little toward the undecided box.   I look elsewhere and don’t see any managers ripping it up that I’d want here.  The big Q, who comes in if he goes, and our current incumbent board track record gives me the fear.  
 

I think the board and specifically the CEO should be a lot more front and centre taking pressure off the manager - and I still hold them firmly accountable in the main for our current underperformance.  

One thing that separates the Hughes/Grant eras versus us now, at least the players give their all and look at least motivated to play.  Several times under those two managers I would see examples of players not giving a fk.  

only other problem is though, I’m sure this squad (before any injury returns) is no better than what we had last time in this division.  And that’s more worrying.

Vast majority of our underperformances in my opinion have been down to board decisions or actions.   Utterly depressing.