Rossmcno1

12 minutes ago, Raymie said:

Yes, don’t feel it’s appropriate to share but you get the gist 

Fair dos.  
 

think it’s a fair shout that there are concerns about how we are being run, the costs involved, and lack of communication.   Again compared to Raith, sadly lacking.

2 minutes ago, Raymie said:

Part of an email sent to the patrons 

Not sure if you meant to attach an image but nothing showing if you had.

22 minutes ago, Piracy said:

No, the bigger picture, this season overall so far. 

Now that I understand. Just seemed a strange leap.

Been saying for a while that the Raith changes highlight how lacking we have been on a number of fronts for a while.  Typically Dunfermline to get a huge investment from a consortium yet go backwards.

23 minutes ago, Piracy said:

In fact, I'd be amazed if its on from what I've been told. 

Honeymoon period is over for Cook and the Germans imo. But that's another discussion. 

Honeymoon period over because bits of the pitch are frozen?  Same bits that have been problematic since the main stand was built? 😂 

1 hour ago, Digs said:

Am I thinking of the same player that was at the Rovers? Big striker? If so, I always liked him, a handful and put a shift in. 

No, you might remember Zak Rudden better from his on loan at thistle days - when we had Peter Grant as manager.  He was also at Falkirk on loan the season they went down to League 1, but that was some time ago.  Mcpake somewhere said previously that his top rated young strikers at a point of time in Scotland was Shankland, Nisbet and Rudden.  

In these days of 9 on the bench and 5 subs, who’s to say that Cardle even at this stage would be an option for an injury ravaged team?  I’m not totally against it. 

16 minutes ago, Al k said:

A mates saying Sharps going back to Dundee. 

Yeh been reported in the press.  Sensible move.

8 minutes ago, kelty_par said:

Another one due in today too apparently 

Oh you big tease 

Ex Dundee eh?  😜

4 minutes ago, parsforlife said:

We are a community club, but that community has some issues, like any other one.

You say pyro etc isn’t just any old stuff, and whilst you may not agree with it, it’s absolutely everywhere, I’d reckon the number of clubs in Scotland who have had fans let of pyro in the past year is in the dozens 

Fan violence clearly isn’t acceptable, but again it’s not a dunfermline only issue, nearly every club of our size has issues with it and it isn’t going to be solved easily.

As for fans going off their nut, that’s football, if it’s something that’s going to enrage them I have no idea why they are involved in football TBH.

I think sometimes theres some twee idea about what it means to be a community club, I don’t think any of the incidents even the worst ones are that much of a surprise, they are just things your going to need to deal with as part of running a club.

Exactly this.  None of the issues we have faced last few years are unique to ANY club in Europe.

3 hours ago, Piracy said:

Few points about us just now.

The academy is obviously planning for the future. There has been significant investment in that already and although it's had issues they'll push on with it. I think we'd all agree it's an admirable vision. 

The club will likely announce a fairly significant operating loss for financial year 2022/2023. I also think there will be the same for 2023/2024, although lower than the previous year. So I don't see us reacting to this current crisis with the board throwing significant amounts about this transfer window. There's a balance to be struck though, we definitely need players so we need to do something. Any decision made is going to have to be spot on.

Here's a controversial opinion though: I'm less worried about signing players than I am about incidents like the bad publicity after the Rovers game. I think it drains the boards appetite for their project Pars initiative. I worry they get up and f**k off leaving us with debt we cant service. I think the board need to actually be putting out a communication piece just now giving an overview on where they see us being at this moment in time. The silence isn't great tbh. 

 

The whole “what if they get ****ed off and leave” thing was floated around the Grant/Hughes era, and it’s not helpful at all.  If they are that flakey that they would walk out over something like that then football frankly isn’t for them.  In no way is that condoning what happened, however unfortunately similar things happen all the time with football clubs these days as every club has their element of fuddery.  I don’t want them to have that sword hanging over us all the time as it leads to the wrong kind of messaging, almost that we’d be frightened to challenge them in case they walked away.  Similar comments were made about investors apparently at a game under Grant, where a fan had made their unhappiness known, and there were comments about how much that had put off potential investment.   It just feels a bit like it gives me the ick.  Said it before and happy to stand by it, so far it could be argued we’ve not moved forward since they came on board.  I see lots of encouraging signs and indeed a big ploughed field with diggers on it round the corner from my house, but also see and hear of lots of operating losses and a thin squad right now where we’ve yet to fill our bench this season.

Im all for positivity, indeed in my own coaching and management work in the past (in and out of football) always strive to have a positive environment with great success - however people aren’t stupid, and reality/honesty are far more valued than blinkered optimism.  

2 hours ago, Grant said:

 

****. 

He’ll fit right in there

2 minutes ago, Digs said:

So the answer is abandon their ten year plan for short termism? That makes no sense. The two things aren't mutually exclusive and I'm pretty sure they aren't just hoping for the best. Do people not remember where we were chucking good money after bad chasing a pipe dream?

Clearly the team needs bodies. That doesn;t mean an entire business plan should be chucked out the window in the hope that we might get some extra money from being promoted. Being promoted would absolutely not have been the target at the start of the season, they are far more conservative and patient than we are clearly. We are currently 4 points off the playoff, with a game in hand and playing the team currently in fourth on Saturday with 17 games to go. Realistic talk of relegation is knee jerk nonsense.

We're closer to the playoffs than we are relegation so people need to stop wetting their knickers and calm down. Our support is so bipolar it's ridiculous. Win a couple of games we're talking about catching 3rd, lose a couple then we're in a relegation battle. It's a crazy way of thinking. 

Sorry Digs, always enjoy reading your posts but disagree with you here.  
 

Right now with our list of long term injuries, form, and current win total and points tally v the rest of the teams below us, its hard to understand how anyone can say it’s knee jerk nonsense to have a fear of being in a relegation battle.  Especially with some of our performances on the park recently, we’ve been pretty awful.  
 

Some would say it’s a dose of reality that our team after a fairly decent start, has been found wanting by not scoring enough goals and losing too many.  Hardly fantasy land right now to look at all the factors of this season right now and think…..may be trouble ahead.
 

3 hours ago, Piracy said:

Thanks for the advice, unfortunately I encounter similar behaviours and points of view in the pub, work and at matches. I'm refusing to hide away though 😊

Social media I find much more poisonous than anything face to face.  I refuse to engage with the numpties or let them even be dignified by a response.  Surprised you get such behaviour at your local pub and work.  

3 hours ago, Piracy said:

I'm sure we'll be looking to add to the squad, obviously it's a present requirement given our current plight. What I don't want are panic signings seeing the team filled with overpriced and substandard jobbers. 

Just been on Twitter and there's a few of our fans losing their nerve and composure. Rabbiting on about academy, absent German owners, who's fault are the injuries yadda yadda. There's a way to approach resolving problems and issues and the aggressive reactionary nature of some fitbaw fans certainly isn't the way. 

Here a top tip for you.

Dont read fans comments on social media.  Facebook and Twitter.  Honestly - complete cesspits the pair of them.

1 minute ago, Grant said:

McPakes post match interview is certainly something, as angry as he's come across. 

Heads gone from the manager in that.  The Jakubiak comment is bizarre. “Not sure if that’s an injury or not”. What the feck else is it?  

It’s beyond a joke now.  We’ve been caught out by having such a tight squad.  We’ve now overloaded almost every player.  
 

Let’s be serious here, that Queens Park team was utter pish, and are bottom of the league for a reason - the reason being, they’re utter pish.   We deserved to get beat tonight.  I’m not angry at the players who tried their best, but someone/collectively, is culpable for us being in the position where we cannot field a fit 11 at championship level.  Wighton/Summers/O Halleron not fit, we should have enough players to be able to not risk them when they clearly aren’t right.  The current situation is now disheartening the entire club.
 

If we don’t sign some bodies in this winter, of the right quality, then we are absolutely in a relegation battle.  And right now, smart money would be on us finishing bottom 2.  We don’t look like scoring much, and we can’t keep clean sheets.  
 

it’s thoroughly depressing watching us right now, and time for the board to get their finger out and act.  Sign some ****ing players ffs, or we’ll be opening our training academy the same week we host Stirling Albion at home.   Dont sleepwalk into another relegation. 

19 minutes ago, Piracy said:

Pars win. 

Just to add, f*ck all those clubs supporters hating on us just now. I'm not ashamed on my club, never will be. 

Exactly this.  Mind all the hate they got when the Rovers signed Goodwillie, but now they’re everyone’s favourite cuddly wee team.   It’ll pass soon enough and some other club will be getting the ire of the offended.  What happened was ghastly and utterly reprehensible- but not much better was some of the petty point scoring and glorification in victimhood that was all over social media.   
 

Back to trying to make the right headlines on the pitch, hopefully characterised by “depleted Pars crush Queens Park”…!

I watched Wilson play centre back for Colorado against my new home team Austin back in March.  I would be very very (pleasantly) surprised if he’d entertain us.  Salary wise we’d be lucky to offer a fifth of what he’s been earning.

I think if everyone was fit, you could make a case for the squad being MARGINALLY stronger than last season.   I agreed with those that we let go at the time when the club were talking about quality replacements, I’m still waiting in that regard.  
 

It would be churlish for anyone to say that had the following three players been kept on there would be no difference at all.  There have been games where Macdonalds different approach at wing back could have made a difference, games crying out for a change of attacking style up top whether it be Todorov or OHara.  With us being so threadbare with injuries each one of those absolutely could have contributed at some point over the last few months.   I still maintain that it was right that they went, but we have risked it again this season being so tight on numbers.  Last year we got away with it big time, this year - caught out.  
 

Club needs to make additions in January, and work out what is going wrong to cause so many injuries.  Medical care?  Rehab?  Overload?  Whatever it is, needs fixed fast because this is now beyond a joke.

We were promised that the club would sign quality in the previous window, that when fans saw the calibre of player we would be targeting, we’d understand the patience.

My patience is running thin now.  Has been for some time already this season and I’m getting serious deja vu about certain aspects of our club activity.  I get the impression from many forums that lots of fans are behaving like “doing well to be 4th/5th” with our 6 wins so far this season and a hideous record against 3 teams above us.   No we’re not.  Sorry but a lot of this season has been bloody awful to watch.  I want positivity about our club, but let’s have some reality checks in place, other than an occasional fisting of Morton, Airdrie and Queens Park, it’s been pretty turgid.
 

Injuries have had a big effect on the club, but whether it’s the manager or the board, someone is culpable for running at such a tight squad that we have no depth to change games, something that McPake was brilliant at last season.   

I get more concerned when I hear unverified reports of near to seven figure losses for last season, despite what has to be the most commercialised operation at the club for years, and we certainly aren’t blowing money on loads of players.   We are the second highest supported club in the division, I just think we are right to expect a bit more. 

3 minutes ago, Grant said:

Aye the video is absolutely shocking. 

That section of the NW seems inhabited by arseholes tbh. 

Cheap season cards for that age group brings this risk.  They’ve been nowhere the last few weeks, but today all there.   More pyro despite the warnings.  They’ve had leaflets statements chats …. Clearly not taking effect 

Shame because the tifo looked excellent but wee fuds behaving with no belief in consequences ruin it. 

So frustrating to watch us right now.

Mehmet yet again costs us with a goal.  3 year deal.

Wighton anonymous.  You can be the clever ghost all you want but with zero presence in the game then it’s not clever, it’s a waste of a jersey.  Another year and a half on his deal?

The injury situation is ridiculous but what else can we do other than sign more players?  Both Breen and Fisher injuries today were contact.  Would like to see the Fisher one again because I thought Vaughan was naughty leading with an elbow/forearm to the neck, but maybe I didn’t see it right. 
 

They were totally for the taking there today, but we are so weak, toothless, and played like wee Boys half the time.  
 

so frustrating. 

12 hours ago, Raymie said:

I retired at 34. Came back for a few games at 38 and retired at 51 ! 
 

32 is no age at all, especially for a sweeper type 

😂 at your first sentence.  Giving hope to professional footballers all over the world 😂

And agreed re second sentence, with the right players around them, a good centre back sweeper type could go well into mid 30’s and do a job if they can stay fit.

Getting quite a few messages from pals in west coast way saying conditions for the drive look horrendous with heavy snow, safe travels all. 

It’s a vision, and it’s very different to other clubs. 
 

When we’re doing well it’ll be lauded and examples sought of random folk from far flung parts of the world being fans, because of our club “culture” that’s been created, and credit in bank with media outlets for being a wee bit cuddly.

When we’ve just had our latest unexpected bad run of results or a fisting from Spartans (*or another random side two divisions below us) in another early cup exit, it’ll be used as a stick to beat the board/team/manager with.  “Aye no much fair play today when XXX got sent off for stickin the nut on that boy”   “Never mind all this woke birthday card pish, get a ****in striker signed you useless German c****”

I mean the truth is probably right in the middle of those two, and fair enough.  Don’t think it’ll do us any harm, and if they believe in it, the manager buys into it, and ultimately we all buy into it, who knows, it might just work.

my concern is too many of our support default to type and can’t help themselves just being negative dour bastards 😂