Rengade Master

I'm sure if it was that obvious on the Pars TV stream some of the accusers would already have it plastered on .net (which currently appears to be down) to support their claims. With the help of zoom and enhance they could probably identify most too. PS Raymie if you were sitting in the TV gantry in the North stand and you can't see folk in the hospitality boxes should you really be commentating on games if your eyesight is that bad? 🤣😉

That is probably exactly why they have decided no supporters, if it was season tickets only it would bring in no additional money but still cost for stewards and the police. If you did what economics say a business should do which is sell 500 tickets there would be uproar amongst the ST holders.

Along with the cases will double day on day which has also failed to materialise. This was before any restrictions were in place yet 4 weeks later when none of the doomsday figures have happened restrictions are put in place. Modelling is obviously only going to predict the worst but as every passing day and week goes by it can't take a mastermind to be able to collate current figures against previous figures as we now have history whereas we didn't previously to be able to constantly remodel. i.e with 1000 Kent confirmed cases 2 weeks later we had 200 admissions for instance. 1000 Omicron cases 2 weeks later we had 10 hospital admissions. Cases have not double but risen by 8-10% on a day to day basis. Easy Maths for the experts I'd have thought, more so that the current figures are being driven from London the most densely populated area of the UK and with the largest ethnic population where the vaccine uptake has been at it's lowest, yet Scotland is almost completely opposite and has enforced the tighter restrictions that make no sense!

The NHS is only struggling due to the 10 day isolation rules, the occupied beds due to covid including ICU are at the lowest for months. As are the daily figures we were up around 7000 daily cases in the summer and no further restrictions we are around 3000 at the moment with a weaker strain. Zero logic except no Euro's or COP26 around at the moment.

Oh Look the same conclusions as they found in RSA. BREAKING New #Omicron study in Scotland and it looks like good news. ‘Early national data suggests that Omicron is associated with a two-thirds reduction in the risk of COVID-19 hospitalisation when compared to Delta.’ Experts from Edinburgh & Strathclyde Uni. Sometimes waiting on data before making crippling decisions can be beneficial to all the industries being hardest hit!

Ally, you know full well it was muted but in line with previous decisions it tended to follow the closure of indoor venues first, as we all know fresh air events have been far less restricted. The idea you can't have 3000 fans in a 12000 seated stadium as EEP is, but can have 100 people in the Elizabethan is astonishing.

So it has happened.......... This will affect any transfers incoming in the window for starters. Pubs will be open for the Old Firm and Edinburgh derby causing huge problems not just for this mild flu or bad cold, but also trying to police all the venues whereas out of doors 60,000 and 18000 fans all in one location outside and far more easily policed was sensible. This is utter madness, I can honestly see a full lockdown coming into force on the 27th to prevent the above scenario occurring and all the Hogmany house parties. In the meantime enjoy what's left of the festive period! Hope they are told to use £347m set aside for getting ready for IndyRef 2 to support all the clubs and businesses being decimated by these rules.

Think you will find I have pointed out the NHS needs more funding and quoted rather than doing another lockdown and paying billions in grants and furlough spend it on the NHS. Also I mentioned an overhaul of management to get more Drs and nurses on the wards to treat patients. It seems you just read what you want to read as a reason to take umbrage with folk! Never ideas or suggestions just constant negativity towards posters who don't agree with your outlook. 🤷‍♂️

Will never happen, more so now than ever the security of it is being guaranteed by the fact that those who can go private are, but are still paying via taxes to pay for the NHS. In football terms it's like paying for 2 season tickets knowing you can only watch 1 game on a Saturday afternoon but you are supporting the other team by proxy. Have governments and large private companies incentivised the scheme very very likely. Would the NHS be in far worse state without private healthcare. Yes it would be totally on it's knees.

Mrs has been there over 20 years and was offered the full family package of healthcare at no extra cost so must have changed at some point. However the number of firms that offer it nowadays all over the UK is absolutely huge and will be well into the millions who benefit from it. The very same folk who pay the huge taxes to benefit the NHS but are then encouraged not to use it. Having read of recent tragedies of tumours etc being missed while waiting for CT, MRI, Ultrasound scans I'm more than complicit like you to use the benefits of the private healthcare for the health of my family. The NHS will never be privatised and will always be there for those who need it. The balance will always come from staffing both the private and NHS systems which is where I see future problems.

Reading the latest symptoms both the Mrs and I have had it over the last 2 weeks. Although lateral flow tests said I was negative 2 close contacts tested positive via PCR at the same time. I was actually unable to leave the house to get a PCR test. It was all very similar to the full blown covid I had at the start but was only about 50/60% as bad and only buckled me for 4 days rather than a 14 days. If this the likely outcome on most it will feel like the worst cold you have had as lots of people have also experienced over the last few weeks. After all Coronavirus is part of the common cold virus. It's been in Africa now for many months and maybe the cold weather of the UK has been the reason for its major transmissibility but who knows. As for herd immunity yes it's work the same as a vaccine where a small dose of the key parts of the virus are given to teach your own immune system how to respond, giving it a head start in fighting it if you have future exposure. The experts always said that with each mutation it would spread quicker but the severity would weaken, and i think that is exactly what is transpiring along with vaccines and herd immunity. I for one are certainly in the lets get on with it camp, we have pressures every winter with flu and pneumonia etc this will be another to add. Spend the money on bolstering the health system not paying furlough and and grants etc. If that means commissioning the private hospitals and there 8000 beds and ICU units and putting back the private elective surgeries for a couple of months why not?

Private healthcare is no longer the epitomy of wealth and is a much used inclusion on many employment contracts especially in the financial sector, in fact anyone and their families who work at SKY in the toon get the benefits once only afforded to the rich and privileged as do most of the Scottish civil servants. Once again the benefits of these of these programs are greatly overlooked, relieving pressures on the NHS, paying huge taxes on the services, buildings they use and the tax on the benefit in kind. These are also much more prevalent in the large cities in England as health benefits are a big part of staff recruitment and the families entitled to use them do so. However when governments UK and Scottish use these self same private hospitals to relieve waiting lists at additional taxpayers expense it begins to get murky. Why is healthcare any more immoral than using private companies for other aspects of government that benefits or helps the population? Private healthcare will not diminish the NHS but actually relieve the burden and help going forward as the private investment opens up greater diagnostics. If you are not on a plan and you could afford it why wouldn't you pay for a hip operation next week rather than wait 3 years for an NHS operation? Those who are against private healthcare are the ones with a problem not the system. As for private companies getting involved with the NHS, this can only be a good thing if a business brain is brought in to overlook the gross waste of money at the management level to release much needed funds to the patient staffing levels and this applies to the civil service in general!

Don't forget that Scottish NHS is totally devolved so all decisions made in Scotland have nothing to do with the scum as you put it! 😉

Well that has it's own problems, if healthcare staff are going off with Covid what is the point of the booster? They were amongst the first cohorts to be treble jagged. Also go back to 2019, 2018, 2017 and so on we were always told to get our flu jab those who were eligible to take the pressure of the NHS as this pressure on the NHS has always been in the winter. Is it really more pressure or is it we have bigger populations and less hospital beds all over the UK. Any NHS bed manager will tell you of the pressures they face, and having spent fat too many days, months, years in hospital I have seen it first hand pre covid. Again I don't have the answers but we need some form of economy left at the end of this and we need to act appropriately and be sensible as do the people in power with their advice/guidance.

I'm only passing on the information that I've heard being discussed unfortunately doing 35,000 miles a year I get a lot of time to listen to the radio. This is a very condensed version of the cusp of the matter re fans in grounds. As for not many fans travel by bus, have you ever been to Celtic Park, Ibrox or a Cup final and seen all the coaches/buses parked around the stadiums? This applies to many away games that the old firm attend. Also as mentioned how do you protect players in their bubbles with thousands of fans close by not to mention the linesman/women. I haven't got answers, I have my own views but lets not open that can of worms 😉

For the ones questioning the source it came from listenting to Dave Cormack Aberdeen Chairman, the Inverness Chairman (name escapes me) and the Scottish Supporters Group President. Who were all interviewed on Radio Scotland on Monday and all gave genuine concern for the game and transport issues to and from games but also concerns with the transmissibility of the virus and in light of the 40+ outbreaks down South in the PL connections were being made as whether fans in the stadium and the proximity to the players were exposing them to more risk. With this in mind the clubs are worried that fans found be excluded to protect the players and the league. On the other hand banning fans from stadia could bring on the real possibility of the leagues not finishing due to clubs folding. The greatest problem is that fans travel on buses John Swinney clearly mentioned fans travelled to England for the Euros and many came back covid positive as a result of sharing buses and this is of huge concern with the huge games we have coming up. It is also wrangling a lot of people that you can only have 3 households in your house but 50 people from 50 households can sit on a bus together singing, shouting etc with no face coverings and no social distancing. That sort craziness is totally undermining any form of credence of these new rules also as hospitality and shops are pointing out. If you want people to comply with rules you have to stop making them look a little bit stupid!

Mutings being made that the next restrictions could be crowds at football. Discussions currently in place regarding this weekends Cup Final and all crowds going forward. Many clubs already saying they couldn't afford another spell without funds without major financial support. Do we need to go down this road or should we learn to get on with life and live with this.

Think VAR would have said no handball and no sending off!

I think East Fife have done pretty well out of that deal. All the best to SC. I actually thought he would end up back at Hearts with Robbie.

Why even post stuff like this on a public forum? It makes us look an utter shambles for starters. Secondly something like this getting passed to the SPFL/ SFA can get us in to a whole load of investigations, questions and potential punishments. We were relegated due to copping a point deduction due to scurrilous rumours appearing on a forum???????? Really some folk need to think before posting this sort of stuff!

Hold on I was miles off a minute ago, but you have now seen the shove in the players area. BBC now carrying a very similar story to what I was told. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-59400549

Have you seen the CCTV?

Think you will find a Dundee Utd fan left a hospitality suite and entered a player/official restricted area and went for Ojo, he defended himself by pushing the fan away who stumbled and fell before being led aware by stewards. Police are investigating reports of a minor assult involving Ojo.

Keyser have you ever watched "on the tools" videos on facebook. Fantastic banter and part of life on the building site involving young and old.

So you get mollycoddled through your development, you are are shielded from banter, leg pulling you progress to be a good player and make your debut in front of a crowd! How do you protect that same player then?