scottyboy Posted March 17 Author Report Share Posted March 17 I've got an idea.. dinnae pay yir licence. Its breaking the law and you could end up in court. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, SanguinePar said: a few hundred fans of neither team might happen to watch a match that they don't really have any interest in. Closer to 100k watching each week, that’s a fair bit of attention our league wouldn’t get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 2 hours ago, the saline hill puma said: not a chance 6300 odd attended that game Probably right, but if it's ST holders not coming then it costs the club nothing (some catering, I guess). I still think we would have had an official attendance of around 8000 if the game hadn't been on Friday and on TV, even if some ST holders didn't show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 1 hour ago, parsforlife said: Closer to 100k watching each week, that’s a fair bit of attention our league wouldn’t get. And what good does attention get us? I'd rather we had fans in the door and money in the bank. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 2 hours ago, scottyboy said: I've got an idea.. dinnae pay yir licence. Its breaking the law and you could end up in court. 😆 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted March 17 Report Share Posted March 17 7 minutes ago, SanguinePar said: And what good does attention get us? I'd rather we had fans in the door and money in the bank. An introduction to potential fans, An introduction for new sponsors and More value for current sponsors. Its slightly intangible but there certainly importance to be visible as a business, if people aren’t thinking of you they won’t give you their money. I’m not disagreeing that there’s cost to this but it’s unfair to completely disregard the benefits of 100k people engaging with your product weekly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyboy Posted March 17 Author Report Share Posted March 17 55 minutes ago, SanguinePar said: ? Let them earn their money another way. Why pay? I believe a lot don't pay a licence now. I wouldn't worry bout breaking that law, hence the smiley face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Riva Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 9 hours ago, parsforlife said: An introduction to potential fans, An introduction for new sponsors and More value for current sponsors. Its slightly intangible but there certainly importance to be visible as a business, if people aren’t thinking of you they won’t give you their money. I’m not disagreeing that there’s cost to this but it’s unfair to completely disregard the benefits of 100k people engaging with your product weekly Like you say, it's nothing concrete, not even like targeted advertising to consumers, who need to buy essential products. I'm with Sanguine on this one. A bird in the hand and all that..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 9 hours ago, parsforlife said: An introduction to potential fans, An introduction for new sponsors and More value for current sponsors. Its slightly intangible but there certainly importance to be visible as a business, if people aren’t thinking of you they won’t give you their money. I’m not disagreeing that there’s cost to this but it’s unfair to completely disregard the benefits of 100k people engaging with your product weekly Aye, it's not just the specific club sponsorship either, you're far more likely to be able to get better league wide sponsorship if you can point out that on a weekly basis you've got 100 thousand people watching it on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Grant said: Aye, it's not just the specific club sponsorship either, you're far more likely to be able to get better league wide sponsorship if you can point out that on a weekly basis you've got 100 thousand people watching it on TV. But who does that benefit most? The teams at the top, further widening the gaps between haves and have nots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 2 hours ago, SanguinePar said: But who does that benefit most? The teams at the top, further widening the gaps between haves and have nots. The teams at the bottom tbh. The money from the TV deals is added into the prize pot as a whole then distributed through the leagues, we'll benefit for example from the Sky Sports deal despite never appearing on it. Last year the prize money was poor, but it would've been a damn site worse if there wasn't a TV deal. It's unfortunate that it's impacted our games against Dundee United, however I dispute that It impacted the gate massively on Friday, those I know who pick and choose there games had no appetite for it after another poor Fife Derby performance. And on that the games are regulated, each team has a maximum of two home league games. Which means our two home fife derby's against Raith weren't touched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 5 hours ago, Grant said: Which means our two home fife derby's against Raith weren't touched. The league games maybe, but our cup game on Friday 24 November certainly was. I'd also dispute that giving a proportion of the overall deal to teams who don't feature on TV is to their benefit compared to the biggest teams. Yes they get a bit but they still get much less than those at the top, so the gap grows ever larger. Not to mention situations like ours where we lose out on potential gate money from a big match. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 18 hours ago, scottyboy said: Let them earn their money another way. Why pay? I believe a lot don't pay a licence now. I wouldn't worry bout breaking that law, hence the smiley face. I'm more than happy to pay my licence, I think the BBC is one of the best things in this country and not being commercially funded is an essential part of that. That doesn't mean I agree with everything they do, but I still support it in general. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 24 minutes ago, SanguinePar said: Yes they get a bit but they still get much less than those at the top, so the gap grows ever larger. I'm not sure how true that is, yes the higher up the spfl you are the bigger proportion of prize money you get. However it's also true that spfl prize money makes up a far smaller proportion of there income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinePar Posted March 18 Report Share Posted March 18 25 minutes ago, parsforlife said: I'm not sure how true that is, yes the higher up the spfl you are the bigger proportion of prize money you get. However it's also true that spfl prize money makes up a far smaller proportion of there income. Yeah, but they're still getting much more income from that than other teams, plus their other income streams as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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