GG Riva Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, livipar2 said: Surely Otoo is a natural centre back? I would suggest he's more of a midfielder. He's so good at driving forward with the ball. Defensively, he's more likely to cost us a goal due to his inexperience. He'd be fine playing alongside Bene, but Hamilton and Comrie are not experienced central defenders - they're doing an admirable job but are just filling in until the likes of Bene and Breen are fully fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelty_par Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Otoo is a Centre half. He was signed as a CB and only covers in midfield when needed is the way I see it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie1 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, kelty_par said: Undersoil heating was switched on yesterday so game will be on My son was there today in shop getting tickets & top for my granddaughter, he was told undersoil heating getting put on tomorrow ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digs Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 52 minutes ago, kelty_par said: Otoo is a Centre half. He was signed as a CB and only covers in midfield when needed is the way I see it That's the way it is. He's a CB. The undersoil heating isn't on yet though, but will be. My mrs spoke to Kev the groundsman today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 I prefer Otoo in midfield, I think all his best performances have come there. I am frustrated about the lack of CB cover we have, it was very poor planning to just hope a guy in his 30s and someone with repeated injury problems, mostly muscular, that both going to be available for 30 games a season. That said, I don’t actually think our biggest problem is having Hamilton and Otoo at CB, they are capable, the bigger issue is that they then aren’t playing higher up the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambo1885 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, kelty_par said: Otoo is a Centre half. He was signed as a CB and only covers in midfield when needed is the way I see it I believe the plan, when everyone's fit (if that ever happens) is for Otoo to play in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, lambo1885 said: I believe the plan, when everyone's fit (if that ever happens) is for Otoo to play in midfield. We’ve never really had a ‘what’s our best 11’ question it’s mostly been what 11 can we get on the pitch. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambo1885 Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, parsforlife said: We’ve never really had a ‘what’s our best 11’ question it’s mostly been what 11 can we get on the pitch. That's when we can get 11 on the pitch 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA-go Par Adonis Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, parsforlife said: I prefer Otoo in midfield, I think all his best performances have come there. I am frustrated about the lack of CB cover we have, it was very poor planning to just hope a guy in his 30s and someone with repeated injury problems, mostly muscular, that both going to be available for 30 games a season. That said, I don’t actually think our biggest problem is having Hamilton and Otoo at CB, they are capable, the bigger issue is that they then aren’t playing higher up the pitch We've got Benedictus, Fisher, Breen, Otoo, Hamilton and Comrie (as a RCB) all experienced at playing in a back 3. I don't know how much more cover you'd expect a Championship side to have - or how it's poor planning. We've basically got our first choice back 3 injured and can still put out a competent looking defence. If anything it's well planned given the pretty horrendous luck we've had. Also, Benedictus played every game bar one last season - and that was due to a suspension. He's also only 31 years old. It's hardly akin to signing Lewis Vaughan and pinning your attacking hopes on him being an ever-present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Riva Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 9 hours ago, kelty_par said: Otoo is a Centre half. He was signed as a CB and only covers in midfield when needed is the way I see it I'm not arguing that, KP, but I think his qualities make him more useful to the team in midfield when everyone is fit. The lad has bags of talent and confidence but he's not the finished article yet. I'm sure that in time, he will become an equally good defender. There's no hard and fast rule that a player signed in a certain role can't develop in another of course. In the 60s, Jock Stein converted Willie Callaghan and John Lunn from wingers into full backs and brilliant they were, too. George Farm moved Alex Edwards from the right wing into a creative midfield role in which he excelled for the Pars and then Hibs. Roy Barry played his first few games for the Pars in midfield before moving back to become our best ever centre half. captain Courageous, Norrie McCathie, did likewise..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossmcno1 Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 I agree GG. Otoo may have been signed as a centre back, but for me he has a brain fart per game ratio higher than average, and he’s not strong enough in the air (yet) to have CB as his strongest position in this team. I really enjoy watching him in midfield as he seems to bring physicality and has an eye for a good driving run or pass. That’s not to say eventually he will be stronger and more natural at CB, right now for me though his performances in midfield have been some of his best in a Pars jersey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digs Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Rossmcno1 said: I agree GG. Otoo may have been signed as a centre back, but for me he has a brain fart per game ratio higher than average, and he’s not strong enough in the air (yet) to have CB as his strongest position in this team. I really enjoy watching him in midfield as he seems to bring physicality and has an eye for a good driving run or pass. That’s not to say eventually he will be stronger and more natural at CB, right now for me though his performances in midfield have been some of his best in a Pars jersey. I actually quite like his Youssef Rossi moments where he strides into midfield from the back with the ball and the opposition have no idea how to handle it. He's pretty decent on the ball and I think is capable in either position. I don't think it's that he's prone to 'brain farts' it's more a lack of experience. He's still a young laddie and this is his first team he's played for in the Senior game (I know Lowland is technically senior but it's not the Championship) and he's not completed a year yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Army Par Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) Agree Otoo was signed as a centre back but I don't think that's where he will be playing long term. His best qualities are getting forward and not defending. Think he's best in that midfield role. Very effective making bursting runs from a deep position. Edited December 1, 2023 by Tartan Army Par Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 12 hours ago, Digs said: That's the way it is. He's a CB. The undersoil heating isn't on yet though, but will be. My mrs spoke to Kev the groundsman today. How long does it take to get going and have an effect on the pitch I wonder? I suppose that will also depend on how frozen it is. Otoos natural position Imo is on the left of a back three, that's where his ball progression really comes to the fore. Playing in a back two is different though, and I'd suggest he's actually more suited to playing in midfield than in a back two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digs Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 44 minutes ago, Grant said: How long does it take to get going and have an effect on the pitch I wonder? I suppose that will also depend on how frozen it is. Otoos natural position Imo is on the left of a back three, that's where his ball progression really comes to the fore. Playing in a back two is different though, and I'd suggest he's actually more suited to playing in midfield than in a back two. I don't know tbh, but I can't imagine the ground will be frozen too deep, it's only been properly frosty since yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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